K² · Artificial intelligence
Nobody Has Proven the World's Favorite AI Optimizer Actually Works
The paper studies whether AdamW, the de facto optimizer for training large language models, can converge under heavy-tailed gradient noise.
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Dingzhi Yu, Hongyi Tao, Yuanyu Wan et al.
5 authors · cs.LG, cs.AI, math.OC, stat.ML
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The algorithm that trains almost every large language model has never been proven to work under the conditions it's actually used in.
- The authors note that existing AdamW theory lives mostly in finite-variance regimes, which is unsatisfying because empirical evidence indicates stochastic gradient noise in LLM pretraining is typically heavy-tailed.
- The abstract states that recent work shows sign-based optimizers such as Lion and Muon achieve sharp heavy-tailed rates, and that AdaGrad can also converge under heavy-tailed noise.
- The authors state that no rigorous convergence theory for AdamW has yet been established in the heavy-tailed regime.